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100% no. "Celebrity" is basically another word for someone whose job requires them to be in the public eye, and I don't think that entitles them to earn more in a week than some people earn in a year. I do admire some actresses and musicians that I guess would be called "celebrities", but I still don't think they deserve even a fraction of the money they have. Yes, acting can be a hectic, difficult job, but so is the job my father does, which is driving supplies across the country, loading his lorry and more. He is disabled, and works because my mother, also disabled, can't. We can't afford a luxury lifestyle, yet my dad probably puts more into his job than some of these celebrities.

If we're going to call footballers celebrities, then Hell, I'd give all the money I have right now if it meant they got their wages cut. Seriously, they kick up a fuss like the children they are because they are "only" getting paid something like 65.000£ a week?!

I'm disabled too, yet I still go to university, as I want to get a job and support myself financially. I'm also planning a volunteering trip to Thailand, which, if we don't manage to fundraise all the cash we need, I'll be using my savings that I've saved for uni, which actually includes my scholarship money. Why should I have to worry and stress over money all the time, when my problems would be solved if I was a half-naked girl whose producers or whatever knew how to use Autotune.

I think it says a Hell of a lot about our cultural values as a society; in fact our cultural values seem to be more than anything else. When celeb royalty like Cheryl Cole (non-UK people probably don't know who she is :L) get malaria, the doctors and nurses who save her life are probably paid a tiny fraction of her wage. When footballers break their ankles or knees, same deal. I think we need to stop giving out the message that as long as you're seen, you're important and you will get rich. A society is more than its entertainment - when it comes down to it, it is just entertainment. If we had no farmers, no doctors, then I'd love to see how much this entertainment industry would thrive...

Sorry, guys, you can see how pissed I am about this! It's something that really really annoys me, and upsets me in fact. It's one of the huger injustices in life.

Date: 2010-07-21 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sourdick.livejournal.com
Isnt it just a simple basic formula of supply and demand?

People enjoy seeing Angelina Jolie in a movie versus Jane Nobody from Ohio in the same movie. You'd probably rather watch Gerard Piqué play football than Chubby Bob from North London.

I agree there are other jobs that provide more VALUE to our lives, like doctors or nurses, or teachers; but when a movie can bring in over a billion dollars, that is capitalism.

(I suspect you are likely not much of a capitalist at this point?)

Date: 2010-07-21 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] richard-vw.livejournal.com
I guess. In fact I love Angelina Jolie <3, but I still don't think she should be paid what she does for a movie. If people enjoy seeing her more than a nobody, then I guess more people will buy tickets to that movie, and that would make more money for the filmmakers in itself?

(I've never heard of Gerard Piqué actually, and I'd rather watch my nephew play football if i had to watch football :L)

I don't know anything about capitalism or anything remotely political, actually :L I just don't see why being seen for your job means you get paid more than you'll ever spend (although judging by some of the celebs' habits, who knows?).

Date: 2010-07-21 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sourdick.livejournal.com
Well, I could easily argue that, as talented artists, the reason you like Angelina Jolie is because she excels at immersing you into the story. That you literally believe she is Salt or Mrs Smith for 2 hours. Your ten bucks gives you a story you know you will like because you enjoy that artists work.

The filmmakers of course realize this and some talent is better than others.

Is it unfair that a brain surgeon makes 200 thousand dollars a year and the guy at Burger King who puts more toilet paper in the mens room gets 7 dollars an hour? It IS fair because we decided the value of the doctors knowledge is worth more. What about a guy who fixes computers, or the person who collects research documents for the professors who teach doctors?

The only common universal way of placing value on someones time and effort is through money, and thats how we decide someones pay. The problem isnt that its UNFAIR that they get paid this much, I think your problem should be pointed at the REAL problem; and thats people like yourself who create the demand for a product that has no societal value.

Date: 2010-07-21 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] richard-vw.livejournal.com
Well actually the reason I like Angelina Jolie is because I think she's good looking! She is actually a good actor, but there are so many actors that convince me they are really in their rôle, but they probably don't get paid so much. I'm more bothered about how good the film is, and I think that the crew behind the scenes is nearly just as important as the actors, yet they don't get paid as much.

Yet that's the thing, most people in the world DON'T decide these people's pay. And I tend to stay out of all that entertainment jazz - I practically never go to the cinema, I don't even buy movies unless they're on offer for about 3£ because they're so old. I get it, yes, that people do create the demand for these products, but I can tell you now, that I certainly don't. My real problem is that my family have had to bend over backwards just to support us (as no doubt have many others) but as soon as you have to be seen by the public for your job, you are financially secure for life.

Date: 2010-07-21 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sourdick.livejournal.com
Okay, not YOU specifically but PEOPLE DO decide celebrity pay by creating demand. They are products that are bought and sold depending on how much the public wants to see them act/strip/telljokes/play baseball/etc.

Your post seem to be bracing the idea of how it works as a whole, and not just one little piece as you seem to be talking about in the comments here.

Date: 2010-07-21 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] richard-vw.livejournal.com
Yeah, I get that. I always think the solution should be that the actor's wage should be based upon box office sales, a certain percentage of what the film brings in or something?

Haha, sorry, yeah, the more angry I get about something, I seem to go more off-topic. I just wish there was an easy solution to it - in footballers' cases, getting paid that much to play a game that schoolboys play all the time just seems unjustifiable to me. Yes, there is more work involved for professionals, and it is tougher, etc. but I just think celebs' wages have gotten out of hand.

I hear you

Date: 2010-07-21 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] victorgreywolf.livejournal.com
Yeah, celebrities suck. Sure they get more attention, but bottom line they're pieces of shit. I like the way you speak, as far as celebrities are concerned.

Rock on

Re: I hear you

Date: 2010-07-21 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] richard-vw.livejournal.com
Thanks :)
I get it that celebrities etc. have to be paid, but I seriously heard of a footballer taking a stroppy fit because he was being paid "only" 65.000£ a week. When someone is being paid 6 figures in a week, as many footballers are, I don't see how anyone can justify it.

They're not all pieces of shit :P But even the people that I admire don't deserve to be paid that much. Many artists I admire will never be celebrities because they aren't "sexy" to the mainstream. Society is way too superficial *sigh*

Date: 2010-07-21 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mondengel.livejournal.com
Yeah, so often it's the people behind the scenes that do such a great job.

And kicking a football around? Big deal. You can see that in most school playgrounds at playtime. I get that footballers are athletes in a sense, and it must be exhausting to do what they do, but still, the reality is that they kick a ball around a pitch and get paid weekly what would be a very decent annual salary. And yet this country (Britain) has had to cut so many important jobs and is struggling financially, when we could just reconsider how much celebrities (i.e. people who have to be seen for their job, compared to working out of the public eye) are paid for what they do (or don't do). I mean, some people don't even have food or water, and these footballers are feeling put out that they don't get more than £100,000 a week? For shame.
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Date: 2010-07-21 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] richard-vw.livejournal.com
Hmm, this is interesting. I don't understand celebrity worship in general. Like I understand to idolize certain people; I admire greatly several musicians for example (none of which would be regarded as celebs, mind you), so I understand being so obsessed with a person you don't know. But most people these days care about people on the sole basis that they're famous? I don't get that at all. It's mindless.

Date: 2010-07-21 10:54 pm (UTC)

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